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In a candid chat on Marc Maron’s popular WTF podcast, seasoned actor Josh Brolin opened up about his curious habit of using nicotine pouches around the clock—yes, even while he sleeps. Brolin asserted, “I don’t even know I’m doing it, I’m asleep,” while admitting he maintains a pouch inside his lip continuously.

It’s not just a quirky personal habit; his wife, Kathryn Boyd Brolin, sometimes hears him making a chewing sound in his sleep, a result of the pouches. Reflecting on his journey with nicotine delivery methods, Josh noted that he previously used lozenges, which he described as having a harsh taste akin to gasoline. Unfortunately, that transition led him to develop seven cavities, as he would often keep them positioned between his gum and teeth.

Brolin’s dependence on nicotine has escalated to the point where he keeps pouches scattered throughout his home. He expressed a concern for the safety of his young children—6-year-old Westlyn and 3-year-old Chapel—explaining that he has to be vigilant to ensure they don’t accidentally consume the pouches. He quipped about leaving them on the bedside table, cautioning that if his children were to try them, they’d likely feel unwell. Instead of attempting to quit, he finds himself in a teaching moment, jokingly stating, “Daddy needs that.”

The actor’s candid revelations prompt a reflection on the extremes of personal habits—this one certainly leans towards the peculiar. For those intrigued, the complete interview can be found in the podcast, where you might feel compelled to share your thoughts in the comments section.